Is Bulk REO Investing Right For You?

Posted by Marshall on September 3, 2010

Please read this entire post because I want you to know what is going on..
I’m trying to stay pretty low key with you, but I also want to remind you of something before you take off for the long weekend.

This is me writing to you because I’m genuinely concerned about where we are heading.

The other day I let you know about a report that I’m offering to folks looking for commercial real estate funding or business funding.

Even if you are not looking for commercial or business funding, I would recommend checking it out.  I think you will get some great ideas even for a residential loan request.
I can not help you right now with funding on residential (I’m working on it though), but I think it has some great ways to help you out, just translate it to what you want funding for in residential and then take that to a local community bank, private lender or hard money lender.

http://GetCommercialFundingHelp.com

Leave some comments on my funding blog once you have a chance to look it over.
Go to the first link up there for the report and then leave your comments at the second link.
Please Leave Your Comments over here
http://myrealestatefunding.com/blog/commercial-real-estate/who-else-wants-to-know-how-to-get-your-commercial-real-estate-loan-request-approved
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Now, back to my “Decision Time” subject.
Why decision time?

118 bank failures this year.  It’s only Sept. 3rd!!!
Last week the FDIC took a break from the shut downs.
I would not be surprised if they take a break tonight either since it’s a holiday weekend.
If they do, watch out next week bankers!!!
I heard from someone very close to the financial “Experts” the other day that over 1012 banks are on the FDIC watch list right now.

That’s after we had
2008 – 25 failed
2009 – 140 failed
2010 – 118 failed (and still counting)

Still over 1000 on the watch list?  Ouch!! That is a big number considering there are only 7932 banks insured by the FDIC.
To be sure, no one really knows how many are on the “Watchlist” exactly except for the FDIC and it’s cronies.
Compare today with the S&L crisis from 1989-1995 – 747 “Resolved” or closed thrifts with over $390 billion in assets.

We have 283 closed banking institutions in our current crisis and it is FAR from over.

Don’t believe me, here is the FDIC failed bank list.
http://fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html

This is a very interesting article written in the Wall Street Journal two years ago on Sept 17, 2008.  It discusses the crisis as it was unfolding then and what the writers believed should be done about it.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122161086005145779.html

Here is the wikipedia article documenting the S&L crisis of the late 1980′s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_Trust_Corporation

Well, listen, the world is not going to end today or any day soon if you don’t get in to Bulk REO.  I firmly believe this is a great opportunity for right now though based on our current economic environment.  You need to be buying as low as possible and offering either very competitive rental rates or very competitive wholesale prices to the rehabbers in your target market.  I can’t think of any way to do this consistently or more efficiently other than through Bulk REO.

To be VERY CLEAR here.  Like anything in life that’s worth ANYTHING, this takes WORK!!  Your banker is not just going to roll over and hand you the keys.  You need to know what to say to get them to talk.  It takes negotiation skills too, but you use those everyday anyway right?  Wouldn’t you rather negotiate one big package rather than one individual house?  Your efforts will pay off MUCH better.

Let’s also be clear about THIS.  NOBODY is paying retail anymore.  We have too much inventory everywhere.  Housing starts need to stop until existing inventory is absorbed by the marketplace by new households, new families, people moving back out of Mom & Dad’s place, etc.  So, if you want to make anything, you need to be buying stuff on the super super cheap.

If you are looking for a way to really make an impact in your real estate business, then this might be what you are looking for.  There is no doubt in my mind that banks need the help of smaller investors to come in and help them dispose of blocks of properties quickly.

If you could pick up 10 houses for even 60% of their “As Is” current value, meaning you already have a 40% discount even if a rehabber was to buy it from you to fix it up, do you think that would help?  There are ways to slice and dice bigger packages into smaller packages, basically wholesaling packages of deals to small investors that want to maybe pick up 5 or 10 houses to rent out.

It’s like you being the wholesaler to Costco or Sam’s Club.  You sell to them in bulk, then they sell at a discount in a little less bulk to someone else. It’s called the Distribution Channel and it’s a necessary part of any business.  You can become one of the links in the distribution channel or you can continue to be toward the end of that channel.
It’s up to you. The banks go ahead and list properties all day long for 90% of As Is value.  They don’t sell… they sit there forever unless a homeowner comes in and thinks they are getting a great deal.  Bulk REO is the way for you to tap into the “Shadow Inventory” that the bank doesn’t want to put on the market yet.  They don’t want to flood the market.

In many cases they don’t even want to take title to the property.  That’s where you get into non-performing note buying as well.
The reason they don’t want to take title is because then the bank becomes liable for anything having to do with the property.  I’m totally serious, I have had banker’s tell me that is what they are doing.  One that I dealt with had 30 houses in one portfolio of one owner.  The guy defaulted on all of his mortgages and was still taking money from people in cash for their first month’s rent, then he would disappear and not pay the bank.  No background checks, no application, nothing, for ALL 30 houses.

Imagine what those houses looked like when the bank started to investigate!!!!

They were a total train wreck.  The bank did NOT want the responsibility of those houses.  They were all in deplorable condition.  We could not come to terms with them because the trustees at the bank couldn’t swallow the loss that we were wanting them to take.  Not sure what is going on with those right now.  This happens every day of the week.
If the bank doesn’t take title and they just let it sit there, vacant and deteriorating, the mortgage holder stays on title and is technically still responsible for anything that happens at the property.

But I digress. Earlier this week I told you about two options that you have out there to learn how to do this.
I’ve taken enough of your valuable time today, so briefly, here are some highlights about the two programs I told you about.

My friend Susan has her Bulk REO program.
http://MyBulkReoSecrets.com

It’s a solid course and is less than $200 right now.  (This could change at any time, but as I write this e-mail, on the morning of 9/3/2010 it is still under $200).
Susan believes in empowering you to go out and do this stuff on your own.
It’s very much a do it yourself program and she shows you how to find the packages and how to find people to buy Bulk packages from you.

It’s possible that you want more than what she has to offer.
Download her report at that link up there and then compare for yourself what Kenny has put together for you compared to Susan’s program.  Several of my subscribers jumped on Susan’s program earlier this week.  If you did and we haven’t talked about it, please let me know.  (Yes, I get credit for the purchase and will probably be able to take my wife out for a half a dinner at some point because of it.  :) )

Kenny Rushing announced a price slashing and a payment plan the other day for his Bulk REO Trader Secrets program, actually right after I sent you my last e-mail.  (Notice I didn’t send you 18 e-mails about it like some people did, informed, not overwhelmed, that’s what I’m going for here).

http://rapidreiresults.com/bulkreo

You have 30 days to check it out and if you aren’t happy, you can return it.  He also offered a 6 month, do your first deal and get double your money back offer.  That is a very cool offer and Susan does NOT have anything like that.  At less than $200 though, she is not making enough to be able to do that.

One of the big differences between what Susan is doing and what Kenny is doing has to do with their business focus.  Susan is into many different aspects of real estate.
Bulk REO is NOT her only business.  It is something she knows a great deal about though.

Kenny is 100% into buying bulk REO and part of the advantage of him doing this is he’s wanting to increase his deal flow.  If he can get 100+ people sending in Bulk packages for him to look at, naturally he is going to be able to do more business. Thus, the double your money back offer.  Pretty cool if you ask me.  You might be thinking, why don’t I just submit deals to him and not buy the program?  Great question!  His focus is to make sure you know exactly what you are doing so you aren’t wasting his time or yours chasing and submitting junk deals.  If he has say 100 deals sent to his team, he’s got to pick the best ones to work on.  This training will show you how to not only find the best deals but the best way to present them to the fund that will potentially buy them.

So, in closing, if you think it’s something you might want to get into, at least go grab Susan’s report and watch her first video to see what it’s all about by clicking here.
http://mybulkreosecrets.com

Then, go take a look at Kenny’s offer and do your own comparison, your own due diligence, and see if this is right for you.

http://rapidreiresults.com/bulkreo

I hear that he is closing it down tonight so he can get back to focusing on his main business and helping the new students out.  Teaching takes a ton of time and that is why you always see hard deadlines for these programs when they come out.  It takes a good bit of time and money to put these training programs together.  If they can more efficiently deliver it to folks at the same time rather than having 5 people start this week, 5 next week, 5 the following week, so on and so forth, then that is pretty smart I think.

You don’t want to learn this stuff from someone that is just a professional trainer.  You want to learn it from someone that is doing it every day as their main business.  Kenny’s focus has to be on buying Bulk REO, not on teaching it.  He has a fiduciary responsibility to his fund investors to keep the business moving, not get too distracted with other stuff.

I hope this has helped you be a more informed consumer, whether it is for Bulk REO or for your funding needs.

Also, if you know of a great commercial property that is for sale, let me know.  We are currently looking for strong commercial properties and performing commercial real estate notes.

To your success,

Marshall

P.S. Don’t forget to leave a comment on my blog here.

P.P.S. I will be hosting a webinar soon to show you how to use your retirement funds to invest in real estate without getting a penalty from the IRS.  Can you imagine how quick you could build your IRA if you could flip a few deals in your retirement account… especially in a Roth IRA.

Quick links update for this post.
http://GetCommercialFundingHelp.com/funding <—- How to get your funding approved.

http://rapidreiresults.com/bulkreo <—-  Link to Kenny’s program if you want to see it.

http://MyBulkReoSecrets.com <—- Link to Susan’t report that I HIGHLY Recommend.

Make it happen!!

:)

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3Sep

FHA Waives 90 Day Seasoning Rule

Posted by Marshall on January 17, 2010

This is great news!
While I’m not an attorney, the legal speak in the pdf below tells me that FHA is now going to allow a buyer using FHA financing to purchase it even if the seller has not been on title for a minimum of 90 days.

http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/waivpropflip2010.pdf

The 90 day seasoning rule was instituted to try to keep “Illegal flips” from occuring. I have “illegal” in quotes because it is only illegal if someone is committing fraud by getting an appraiser to appraise the property for MUCH higher than the real value of the property.

This is totally illegal and I’m pretty sure you can be put in jail for that. Again, I’m not an attorney so don’t take my word for that.

However, the way most of these transactions are happening is this. An investor purchases a property either from a bank or from a homeowner in distress at a substantial discount because of the distressed situation.

Banks do NOT want to spend money to fix up foreclosed homes.

Homeowners that are having trouble making house payments do not want to make repairs either. They are struggling just to pay their bills.

Why would they continue to repair a home they are likely going to lose in foreclosure anyway?

So these properties NEED an investor buyer to step in and buy the home and rehab the home back to move-in ready condition.

Well, in these times of tight credit, it’s next to IMPOSSIBLE to get a decent rate on a long term loan for an investor. So, rather than holding the property as a rental, the investor fixes up the home using high interest loans.

The investor then turns around the property and finds an end buyer that wants to live there. Typically, the end buyer still gets a really good deal on now an updated home rather than a distressed property.

Well, when FHA decided to implement the 90 seasoning rule, that eliminated a TON of buyers, especially first time home buyers that typically rely on FHA programs to get in with low down payments.

They don’t typically have extra money to fix up a home.

So, I welcome this change for everyone involved. It is going to speed up the acquisition of these distressed properties because now the investor will have an easier time finding a buyer.

What do you think of this plan?
Leave some feedback below.

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17Jan

The last of the “No Money Down” loans…

Posted by Marshall on December 28, 2009

Most everyone thinks that there is NO WAY to get a “No Money Down” loan.
Well, there are still a few programs out there that offer either low down payments or in the case of the USDA rural development program, no money down.

If you are an investor, you can’t use these loans to purchase investment property, however, if you have a property you need to sell, this is a great way to open it up to more buyers.

Check with your local lender to find out if the home qualifies. It must be located in a “Rural” area as defined by the USDA.

There are several requirements that a buyer needs to meet including income limits and total debt limits, but this is a great program to help more people afford a home.

http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rd/pubs/pa1501.pdf

Check out the requirements at the link above. Be patient, it is a slow download because the PDF is filled with several pictures. You may be able to find out if your property is eligible by visiting the link below, but you should also verify with a local lender or your local USDA field office.

http://eligibility.sc.egov.usda.gov

http://www.rurdev.usda.gov/rd/pubs/pa1501.pdf

The loans are attractive to lenders because the government is guaranteeing them. In fact, the Freddie Mac website even has a description of the program to encourage lenders to offer the program. See their description below.

http://www.freddiemac.com/sell/expmkts/guarrur.html

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28Dec

Why do people do this?…

Posted by Marshall on December 16, 2009

Why do people purchase property outside of their area, especially single family homes?
I can understand better if you are looking at multi-family properties. It makes much more sense because you can better afford a management company or just a property manager to handle the property for you. SFR do not have a lot of margin in them. Therefore, you will be hardpressed to be able to afford having a property manager for a SFR.

I just finished inspecting a property in Cincinnati that I’m thinking about purchasing.

However, I’m a reluctant purchaser for this neighborhood. It’s located in the Evanston area, not exactly the Northern suburbs that I typically focus on.

This was a lead that came in off one of my websites. The caller did not fill out my online form before calling, which is understandable. However, she did fill it out over the weekend after we had spoken.
Since they are looking at shedding this for less than they paid, I figured I would at least take a look.

This couple lives out of the area and they DO NOT want to deal with this property. Bought it from a bank in 2008 and they have NEVER been to the property. Not before buying it, not after buying, not while the work was being done. NEVER!
They turned it over to a “Care Taker” after they bought it and he was supposed to do the repairs and get it rent ready.

Now, I have written about this in the past on other groups, media sites, etc. It’s known as “Virtual Investing”.
Do NOT do this unless you are very experienced. I don’t think these folks were experienced. Their are a bunch of people out there touting virtual RE investing “Systems”.
It may work for some people, but it’s not for most people, and is definitely not something you should try if you are new to the business. You need to be in control of your business. Sorry for ranting.

Back to your regularly scheduled program…
I drove up to the property and the street is actually not too bad. One or two other boarded up properties, but the area is actually likely a good rental area. This is not a quick turn area. You buy for cash flow and plan to hold it for a while.
It won’t appreciate, but if you buy it low enough and keep your fix-up costs low, you will likely do pretty well. This one could probably be turned into a two-family and would most likely make very good sense that way.

With that said, as soon as I pulled up I noticed that there were several broken windows and a few boarded up windows. The house next door has some boarded up windows as well but is in better shape than this one. I also noticed a folded up bundle of papers stuffed into the door.
If you are experienced, you probably already know that those are likely work orders from the city.
So, I step back and start taking some pictures to be able to send to the owner. Then I walk up to the front door. Yep, work orders and the house is condemned! :)
No wonder they are motivated! LOL!
The porch is being held up by a skinny stack of cement blocks. I’ll spare you the rest of the details.

However, this could be a really good house to make some decent monthly cash flow on.

This couple made several CRITICAL mistakes. 1. They never saw the property prior to entering into a contract to purchase.

2. They did not see the property before arranging work to be done. (How are they going to know the results if they never saw what it looked like prior).

3. They likely paid their “Caretaker” upfront and never inspected his work.

4. They never made sure it was finished and then rented it.

Well, what did they do right?…
They called me! LOL!
A little late, but I may still be able to help them.

Other than the critical errors the owners made that I noted above, one of my points is, I NEVER would have found this person because I was NOT looking for them.
I do not think they called any other investor. They found my website, called me and I answered the phone. This is an embarassing thing to have happen to someone. If the seller finally get’s the nerve to call someone about their problem, the first person that answer’s the phone is likely going to have a very good shot at that deal. They don’t want to have to call someone else. Now, I have an obligation to try to help that person out or at least let them know rather quickly if there is nothing I can do.
I am not stringing this seller along. I was very upfront with her today after seeing the property and gave her some action steps that she needed to do.

These folks found me because of my web presence.
If you would like to benefit from my web presence, you should get on my wholesale buyer’s list.
One of my site’s has a connection with thousands of investors across the country. If they have something in your neck of the woods, they will alert me and I can then alert you.

Also, I’m dealing with some bulk REO packages that are obviously not all going to be in my area.

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Happy and prosperous investing!

Marshall

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16Dec